Three days after Major League Baseball found the Houston Astros guilty of using a loophole to circumvent its salary cap in 2013, the World Series champions have spoken out about the use of the “Big Unit” — both on and off the field. Astros player Brian McCann, who was the subject of the investigation and testified before MLB regarding the use of the PED performance enhancer testosterone, told The New York Times that he agreed to cooperate with MLB in part because he’s convinced that PED use in baseball is real.

“I understand why I get the balls,” McCann said. “I wouldn’t want my son to play baseball if I didn’t get the balls. This isn’t a fluke. I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for that. I’ve experienced this here. I’ve watched it. And it’s not like they just came out of the woodwork. It’s all happened before. This isn’t something that we just fell off of.”

Post-Katrina Astros manager Bo Porter and general manager Jeff Luhnow also weighed in, and neither of them are particularly happy about it. Porter said, “I’m disappointed. And I’m angry. But I don’t feel like I have much of an answer.”

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Luhnow, meanwhile, minimized the stakes of the case. “To get it out in front of everybody, the league office, the fans and all of us, it’s good,” he said. “But if you put that on the back burner and just think about the Astros, we had a big second half of the season last year. We won our division. We won the World Series, and we won a championship. We’re better now. If people care about it, it’s not the whole thing. We’re happy.”

The results of MLB’s investigation may come down to two owners. The Astros’ Jim Crane, who purchased the team from Drayton McLane in 2011, is at the center of MLB’s inquiry, while former commissioner Bud Selig, who stepped down in 2017, is under investigation for his role in the investigation. Crane is worth $1.8 billion, while Selig is estimated to be worth $5 billion.